what about a teacher places them above and beyond the rest

topic posted Sun, August 31, 2008 - 10:53 AM by  scottie
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namaste everyone!

I am curious to hear what you believe sets you apart from other yoga teachers who follow the standard western one hour session.
what do you think is a standard approach, what is it that a teacher does that makes you think they have gone above and beyond the norm. I particularly liked an intermediate class taught by a male instructor whose energy was particularly calm and inviting. His foundation was more traditional vs the westernized form of exercise. he used proper names of poses did his best to educate the class while teaching with the little time he did have. what is it that separates you from the status quo and makes your style special?

I am traveling to india and took the opportunity to take a teacher training course for 600 US dollars (150 hour certificate) or 950 US dollars (200 hour certificate) in Rishikesh from http//:www.rishikeshyogpeeth.com. this is certified through the Indian Government but I am not entirely sure if it is certified with the YA as this is entirely new to me =)

if anyone would like to take a look at the website, which sadly is not as informative as it could be (i have had to gather most information via email) and tell me what you think. it is not quite as intensive as i would like but the next best and cheapest option was in madurai for 1700 and i simply can not afford that.

bless you all, much love to you.
scottie
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    Hi. My girlfriend is in India right now, and will be taking the Sivananda yoga teacher training course in October, the same one I did. She said that since she's been in India (about 8 weeks now) that she's seen all manner of teacher training available, but any number of different yogis, and, I am sure, a REAL variety of quality of instruction too.

    From the syllabus, it does seem pretty specific, and if I can say so, a near copy of the Sivananda Course I took, although it's a little more relaxed and includes more things in it than ours did. Having said that, for me, the lineage is the most important thing, and on this the Sivananda course is quite solid, but who is to say about these people? I cannot really tell.

    Still, it looks OK, and for the price (which is a little more Indian in flavor than the Sivananda course, which is consistent throughout the world, about $2100-$2300 US dollars) it seems like a good deal, especially in light of the length of the courses- 4-8 weeks.

    As far as what makes a good teacher, I have a REALLY long list of things of what to do and what not to do, because I teach yoga teachers to teach. Having said this, I think most important is the prana of the person, and the reflection of real sadhana in their attitude and giving that little bit more than is necessary for individual students, depending on their needs. I do this, but it took long practice to get there.

    It's pretty clear from everything I write that yoga is spiritual practice NOT exercise, so if a teacher views it as exercise, and teaches accordingly, this person isn't teaching "yoga" as I think of it. They are teaching exercise and calling it yoga. Also, music is a big NO NO in a class. One cannot hear a teacher talk if so.

    I dislike GREATLY the common practice of downward dog as a rest position- mostly because whether or not it's a rest position depends on how lengthy your acromium process is. If it's short or hardly there, one can easily take off the tension from the muscles (given some flexibility) and get some rest. Even so, thinking of this as a rest position is hardly fair even if your bones are structured in a beneficial way. It's a halfway inverted posture (!), so teachers who teach in this manner (which is all too common) have my scorn from the get go. I am quite an experienced yogi who did yoga full time for 4 years in an ashram and I cannot hold downward dog for 5 minutes! I am sure I could work up to it, but why would I want to? So, for me what makes a teacher is not so much what they do, but also their subtlety of understanding about poses, how they work, physiology as connected to the esoteric anatomy, and my most important factor:
    Letting me have my own experience.
    Constant adjustments might allow a person to learn a lot, but yoga is about learning to do asanas so one can sit for long periods of time. It has no other purpose. While it has many other side effects, like fitness, flexibility, etc. one MUST allow the student to have their own experience and to allow them to be quiet for much of the class.

    Om Shanti,
    Regis Chapman
    DurgaDas
    www.silentmotion.org
    Silent Motion Yoga
    • One hour session? One prepares for meditation for years, if not lifetime, working day and night never sleeping, and if he sleeps he awakens.
      • DurgaDas:
        thanks, your replies are always helpful and informative. we have held down dog as a resting position for longer than i thought was necessary and i do agree, though with little experience my opinion of it is based entirely on feeling. thank you for your time my friend, have a beautiful monday.



        Messalins:
        i have posted here about yoga, not meditation. but thank you once again for sharing your feelings on the matter and your time away from what i imagine must be a very strenuous yet fulfilling life long meditational regimen.
        namaste.


        namaste.
        • soem teachers think that they are better than others simply by virtue of being a yoga teacher

          while thi smay set them apart from others I do not find this to be an attractive or appropriate mindset.

          I just chose to not participate in a yoga teacher training as I heard this person's opinion of his greatness.. and his condecension to other training and background. Sad.. many have learned and shared much information and good through many mediums of yoga. More learnign adn work together is helpful and many can gain from it.

          Be ware those who are KNow-it-alls!
  • Scottie,

    What do you find to be the status quo here? Think that's important to understand before I say what sets me apart from it, if indeed I am set apart at all. Otherwise I'd be assuming I knew what you meant without you explaining.

    Katrina
    • I have recently taken classes from people who are outstanding to me..

      they are humble, thoughtful, very intentional with words and actions.

      They walk their talk.
      • For me a good teacher is very compassionate and creative. If I can feel how much they care about teaching yoga, that comes through. Creativity is important to me b/c I get easily bored with the same class over and over again (probably why I like kundalini). I like it when the teacher takes time to make their classes different by using chants, aromatherapy, singing bowls, and well thought out music. And I like it when they take time to say hello. Too many teachers don't do this, and the ones who do become my teachers for a long time. One other thing that makes a good teacher is knowing when to be quiet ;) To be specific, knowing how to teach something in as little words as possible in order to let the students focus on their breathing while holding the positions.
        • thanks simp

          I agree.
          • I think what makes a good yoga teacher are the same qualities that make a good teacher of anything. Patience, positive energy, the ability to communicate things simply, an open mind/heart, humility and did I mention patience? Of course, nobody can maintain this 100% of the time, so it's important, at least from the western standpoint, to remember that your teacher is a person too and will have bad days and good days.

            I'm a big big fan of Sivananda yoga and their TTC is pretty solid for a short intensive type programme (and I think they are the only ones here with YA certification, or maybe it's them and Bihar School). But even some of their higher up teachers have ego problems and I have heard some of them make comments such as "man, these guys can't even do the headstand" in front of beginners (out of classes but within the ashram), which I think is a bit unsensitive and not something I would say in front of students, or even around other people who have an advanced practise.
            • That is a pretty arrogant statement for a teacher to make. Especially since Yoga is so much more than physical work. It seems like if someone is that concerned with the physical advancement of their students, they should be teaching gymnastics.
              • good point simple! i think i like where this conversation has gone vs where it began.. what makes a good teacher, not necessarily what makes the person typing a better teacher then someone else.

                i've found i really enjoy practicing with teachers who have a really firm knowledge of their own self. that seems to shine through for a better experience for all. almost as if that teacher can ground you to the earth as high as they can help you lift yourself into the unknown. a good teacher, for me, is someone who i feel safe journeying with... and i only feel safe with others who know who they are through and through.
                • I agree, Katrina. I think confidence in your own self is important, and personally, I think a teacher is best when he or she has been practicing for a really long time. Most people I know who have studied yoga or other eastern spiritual teachings for a long time have a certain peacefulness about them and they come across as very open to all students of all levels. I have never really been comfortable with a teacher who didn't have at least 5 years of personal study under their belt. That's even pretty liberal for me. Most of the teachers I've studied with have been practicing for at least 10 years.

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