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is this a fad, or will it stick?
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Naked City
Class Action
In yoga studios all over town, people are working up a sweat watching their classmates work up a sweat—and oh, yeah, there’s that inner-tranquillity stuff, too.
By Amy Sohn
Though many people attribute yoga’s increased popularity to renewed interest in spiritual enlightenment, some have discovered a much simpler benefit: better sex. About a month ago, my husband, Jake, began taking classes at Jivamukti and coming home with glowing descriptions of the yoga hotties with perfect posture and cameltoe. My jealousy button pushed, I decided to go with him. After half a dozen classes, I noticed that my downward-facing dog was helping my doggie. My pelvic region felt more sensitive, and my orgasms felt more intense. Even better, Jake’s penis was looking more humongous than usual. Suddenly, I no longer had trouble getting motivated for class.
Jennifer Langheld, 30, a co-producer of a new video series called “Better Sex Through Yoga,” didn’t always have great sex. “I had a slight curve in my spine,” she says, “and I used to have to interrupt sex all the time: ‘Oh, wait—could you just a move a sec?’ I wasn’t getting the feeling I wanted.”
When she started doing yoga two years ago, she noticed she was stronger in her pelvis: “I was way more in touch down there. My breaths would go deeper, and it made an amazing difference in the quality of my orgasms. Sometimes I would come too fast.”
The basic principle behind the video series is that yoga improves sex by strengthening the “sexual core” muscles in and around the genitals, increasing sensation, duration, and comfort. Though the series doesn’t use yoga terminology, in classes the area is accessed through mula bandha, or “root lock,” when yogis isolate and lift the PC muscle—the one between the pubic bone and the tailbone. It’s like Kegel exercises with proper breathing. Eventually, yogis learn to isolate the perineum, a key area of sexual pleasure for both men and women.
Diane, 30, a performance artist, has been doing yoga for four years and is a devotee largely because of the change it brought to her sex life. “I feel like it’s this secret thing that people who don’t do yoga don’t know about,” she says. “Yoga is all about becoming more in touch with your body, but on some level, all that really means is becoming more in touch with your sexual organs. Basically, you’re doing sexercises. It takes about six months to understand what they’re talking about when they say ‘Lift the pelvic floor,’ but once I did, it made my sex life 100 percent better.”
Though she was orgasmic before she started practicing, she thinks those O’s were a pale imitation of what she has now: “I had clitoral orgasms before, but now I’m having G-spot orgasms. They’re much more whole-body. It’s the difference between body-surfing a tiny little wave and an entire wave coming over you.”
Yoga helps men, too—Sting inspired lots of them to study Tantra ten years ago when he boasted that he and his wife could have sex for up to eight hours. (He recanted last year, telling a reporter, “What I didn’t say was that this included four hours of begging and then dinner and a movie.”)
“ ‘If this guy I’m seeing wants to get together but I’m not free, he’ll go to a yoga class to get the energy out.’”
“I can keep it harder way longer than I used to,” says Garvey Rich, 38, an eight-year yoga practitioner and co-producer of the Better Sex series. “I can have mini-orgasms and then keep going, and when I actually come, it’s bigger and more full-bodied, a really good one all over.” But the biggest turn-on, he says, is getting girls he dates into yoga. Last year, he was dating one who “was addicted to a vibrator. It looked like a cake mixer, and I would have to use it and then my hand. I told her I wasn’t into it, and we started doing yoga in bed for twenty minutes at night. She commented that she felt more comfortable and more sensitive, and soon she didn’t have to use the vibrator.”
Of course, in order to experience the sexual benefits of yoga, you have to be having sex—but those who aren’t getting any say yoga can be a good substitute. Classes are structured like sex: There’s a mellow, pleasing mood as soon as you enter the room, a slow build of intensity into increasingly difficult postures, a sweaty, overheated smell, and a nap at the end. “I’m seeing this guy right now,” says Diane, “and if he wants to get together and I’m not free, he’ll go to a yoga class to get the energy out.”
That’s not surprising, given all the visuals. “There will be some girls in there that are nicely, stylishly dressed or in skintight clothing,” Rich says glowingly. “You get ass shots and cleavage shots, and there are girls all around. At the end, the teacher will come over and give you a little massage during shivasana. For $20, it’s way better than a lap dance.”
He likes the talking, too. “Some girls talk about their mula bandha practice like they’re finding their G-spot,” he jokes. “At Jivamukti, this one teacher used to read from the book, and it was like having sweet nothings whispered in my ear.”
For those who feel that imagining their classmates naked isn’t quite enough, there is Hot Nude Yoga, taught by 32-year-old Aaron Star in a Chelsea studio. The classes are men-only, predominantly gay, and partner-driven, and there are only two rules, says Star: “No kissing, and no touching penises.” Are most of his students aroused? “I have a 26-year-old guy who’s hard the moment he walks in till the end of class. But a lot of guys say, ‘I’ll probably get a boner,’ and then they don’t.”
Though it’s the nude part that gets them in the door, the class quickly separates the wheat from the chaff: “The ones who are out of shape and come to admire end up limping out of class.” Couples have formed in his class, but Star’s seen more friendships than love affairs.
To those yoga purists who think he’s perverting what should be a sexless, enlightening experience, he answers, “They’re just afraid I’m going to take their students away. Tantra doesn’t have any moral code. It says we’re seeking spiritual freedom on the earth, not from the earth.”
Those who have experienced the sexual benefits of yoga say it’s hard to look at classes the same way. “When correctly viewed, everything is lewd,” as Tom Lehrer put it. “Once you realize the connection,” says Diane, “you can’t stop thinking that it’s all yoga’s about. Sex is yoga and yoga is sex.”
is this a fad, or will it stick?
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Naked City
Class Action
In yoga studios all over town, people are working up a sweat watching their classmates work up a sweat—and oh, yeah, there’s that inner-tranquillity stuff, too.
By Amy Sohn
Though many people attribute yoga’s increased popularity to renewed interest in spiritual enlightenment, some have discovered a much simpler benefit: better sex. About a month ago, my husband, Jake, began taking classes at Jivamukti and coming home with glowing descriptions of the yoga hotties with perfect posture and cameltoe. My jealousy button pushed, I decided to go with him. After half a dozen classes, I noticed that my downward-facing dog was helping my doggie. My pelvic region felt more sensitive, and my orgasms felt more intense. Even better, Jake’s penis was looking more humongous than usual. Suddenly, I no longer had trouble getting motivated for class.
Jennifer Langheld, 30, a co-producer of a new video series called “Better Sex Through Yoga,” didn’t always have great sex. “I had a slight curve in my spine,” she says, “and I used to have to interrupt sex all the time: ‘Oh, wait—could you just a move a sec?’ I wasn’t getting the feeling I wanted.”
When she started doing yoga two years ago, she noticed she was stronger in her pelvis: “I was way more in touch down there. My breaths would go deeper, and it made an amazing difference in the quality of my orgasms. Sometimes I would come too fast.”
The basic principle behind the video series is that yoga improves sex by strengthening the “sexual core” muscles in and around the genitals, increasing sensation, duration, and comfort. Though the series doesn’t use yoga terminology, in classes the area is accessed through mula bandha, or “root lock,” when yogis isolate and lift the PC muscle—the one between the pubic bone and the tailbone. It’s like Kegel exercises with proper breathing. Eventually, yogis learn to isolate the perineum, a key area of sexual pleasure for both men and women.
Diane, 30, a performance artist, has been doing yoga for four years and is a devotee largely because of the change it brought to her sex life. “I feel like it’s this secret thing that people who don’t do yoga don’t know about,” she says. “Yoga is all about becoming more in touch with your body, but on some level, all that really means is becoming more in touch with your sexual organs. Basically, you’re doing sexercises. It takes about six months to understand what they’re talking about when they say ‘Lift the pelvic floor,’ but once I did, it made my sex life 100 percent better.”
Though she was orgasmic before she started practicing, she thinks those O’s were a pale imitation of what she has now: “I had clitoral orgasms before, but now I’m having G-spot orgasms. They’re much more whole-body. It’s the difference between body-surfing a tiny little wave and an entire wave coming over you.”
Yoga helps men, too—Sting inspired lots of them to study Tantra ten years ago when he boasted that he and his wife could have sex for up to eight hours. (He recanted last year, telling a reporter, “What I didn’t say was that this included four hours of begging and then dinner and a movie.”)
“ ‘If this guy I’m seeing wants to get together but I’m not free, he’ll go to a yoga class to get the energy out.’”
“I can keep it harder way longer than I used to,” says Garvey Rich, 38, an eight-year yoga practitioner and co-producer of the Better Sex series. “I can have mini-orgasms and then keep going, and when I actually come, it’s bigger and more full-bodied, a really good one all over.” But the biggest turn-on, he says, is getting girls he dates into yoga. Last year, he was dating one who “was addicted to a vibrator. It looked like a cake mixer, and I would have to use it and then my hand. I told her I wasn’t into it, and we started doing yoga in bed for twenty minutes at night. She commented that she felt more comfortable and more sensitive, and soon she didn’t have to use the vibrator.”
Of course, in order to experience the sexual benefits of yoga, you have to be having sex—but those who aren’t getting any say yoga can be a good substitute. Classes are structured like sex: There’s a mellow, pleasing mood as soon as you enter the room, a slow build of intensity into increasingly difficult postures, a sweaty, overheated smell, and a nap at the end. “I’m seeing this guy right now,” says Diane, “and if he wants to get together and I’m not free, he’ll go to a yoga class to get the energy out.”
That’s not surprising, given all the visuals. “There will be some girls in there that are nicely, stylishly dressed or in skintight clothing,” Rich says glowingly. “You get ass shots and cleavage shots, and there are girls all around. At the end, the teacher will come over and give you a little massage during shivasana. For $20, it’s way better than a lap dance.”
He likes the talking, too. “Some girls talk about their mula bandha practice like they’re finding their G-spot,” he jokes. “At Jivamukti, this one teacher used to read from the book, and it was like having sweet nothings whispered in my ear.”
For those who feel that imagining their classmates naked isn’t quite enough, there is Hot Nude Yoga, taught by 32-year-old Aaron Star in a Chelsea studio. The classes are men-only, predominantly gay, and partner-driven, and there are only two rules, says Star: “No kissing, and no touching penises.” Are most of his students aroused? “I have a 26-year-old guy who’s hard the moment he walks in till the end of class. But a lot of guys say, ‘I’ll probably get a boner,’ and then they don’t.”
Though it’s the nude part that gets them in the door, the class quickly separates the wheat from the chaff: “The ones who are out of shape and come to admire end up limping out of class.” Couples have formed in his class, but Star’s seen more friendships than love affairs.
To those yoga purists who think he’s perverting what should be a sexless, enlightening experience, he answers, “They’re just afraid I’m going to take their students away. Tantra doesn’t have any moral code. It says we’re seeking spiritual freedom on the earth, not from the earth.”
Those who have experienced the sexual benefits of yoga say it’s hard to look at classes the same way. “When correctly viewed, everything is lewd,” as Tom Lehrer put it. “Once you realize the connection,” says Diane, “you can’t stop thinking that it’s all yoga’s about. Sex is yoga and yoga is sex.”
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Wed, December 14, 2005 - 4:36 AMA healthy sex life is just that: healthy. If yoga helps to increase or intensify the experience for someone, and this is what they want, then it is a beautiful addition to a healthy bodymind.
Reading this article, I knew the word "Tantra" would be included somewhere. I was right: "To those yoga purists who think he’s perverting what should be a sexless, enlightening experience, he answers, “They’re just afraid I’m going to take their students away. Tantra doesn’t have any moral code. It says we’re seeking spiritual freedom on the earth, not from the earth.”
The Eastern origins of Tantra have little to nothing to do with the Western practices-interpretations of Tantra. If I have a soapbox, this is it: a misunderstanding of a sublime truth.
Be Whole!
Siddhananda Devi
Hamsa Yoga Shala
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Wed, December 14, 2005 - 2:33 PMHaving been one of those "yoga hotties" I have to say, it's distracting when there's a guy staring at you in class. I stay on my own mat as much as possible, I don't want someone else on mine either!! I don't go to yoga class to show off and if I wear skimpy clothing it's b/c I'll be working hard and sweating. Yoga is not sex.. it may help your sex life, but how about the fact that you're getting in touch with your body, are probably building muscle tone which will make you feel more attractive, etc. etc?!?
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Fri, December 23, 2005 - 6:28 PMI went to school in New York (state) and in the City, anything can equal sex. This is just pop trash talk that has nothing to do with yoga and not much to do with sex. It just has to do with New York, which is, of course the center of the Known Universe and defines culture. Just ask anyone from there.
There are, of course *great* yoga teachers and great studios in the City.
Human sexuality is a great gift and a part of our body as well as a part of our spirit so yes, when the two are "yoked" in yoga, sex is better, but it's a part of the whole.
I advise men as follows:
"Most yoga classes are populated by women. Go to the class, sit in the middle off to one side. Listen 95% and talk little, but don't be afraid to ask a question or two. Dont' be checking out the yogini's. If they are there wearing fitted clothing it is to feel their body move and check their alignment.
In time, the women will come to accept your presence and they will invite you in--or maybe to tea after asana. That is what women do; they invite others into their tribe. It's quite an honor when they do."
Now this is what I tell women:
I tell them what I tell men. Then I tell them this:
"Don't underestimate the power of your femaleness as you practice asana. Men may notice it and be attracted to it but it doesn't mean they are being disrespectful to you. No, they should not stare, but they may look. Stay "on your mat" and if they stay on theirs, just focus on yourself." -
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Wed, December 28, 2005 - 7:17 AMI'm one of the few guys who go to yoga classes.
If ya love being surrounded by women, you love being a guy
in a yoga class. Some guys are intimidated by that. Not me. Of course in this environment, I am just 'one of the girls'. Never ever ogle, just sneak peaks when they become available. Besides, I'm all business when it comes to yoga anyway. Wanna do it right, pay attention to that which deserves attention during a yoga session. But gotta tell ya...yogified women are the best!!!
One more thing...of course it enhances sex, most body exercise tends to do that, right?
just my 2c!
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Sun, January 8, 2006 - 9:30 AMEva,
I am surprised that you feel people staring at you in Yoga classes.
If you think someone is staring at you, you at least need to look at them even briefly. And at this point the person may think: hey this girl is staring at me...
I don't know where you practice yoga but I personally never felt someone starring at me or someone staring at someone else in my classes.
Of course people look at each other sometime but I never felt any judgmental thinking in that.
So, is it because we go to a different studio or because of our personal mental state/attitude of the moment is different?
Considering you one of those "yoga hotties" shows that there is some kind of preconceived expectations on your part when you attend a yoga class.
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Sat, December 24, 2005 - 5:25 AMDr M wrote [[What's Hamsa Yoga]]
** This is the Yoga of Transcendental Illumination, or the evolution of human consciousness.
From Hindu myth, the Great Swan is the vehicle of Brahman/creation, meaning that which allows the movement of all creation within our being. This Great Swan, Hamsa, has the ability to extract pure water from white milk, signifying the ability to extract the most-pure from even the pure. An idea represented in the mantra:
Om purnamadah purnamidam
Purnat purnamudacyate
Purnasya purnamadaya purnamevavasisyate
Hamsa is the 'association' or kula of enlightened beings, known as Parahamsas (ref: Paramahamsa Yogananda, from /Autobiography of a Yogi/).
Hamsa is a pranayama (a 'vehicle' of breath). Hamsa implies, "I Am". Due to its simplicity, Hamsa is considered one of the 'seed' mantras; primarily because it is considered the mantra of ALL living beings. Hamsa, it is said, is the sound of every breath: from the first "Ha" at birth, to the last "Sa" at death.
Used in conjunction with Soham, it becomes the mahamantra: Hamsa-Soham, "I Am God; God Am I."
Be Whole!
Siddhananda Devi
tribes.tribe.net/adi_tantra
tribes.tribe.net/adi_ayurveda
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sun, December 25, 2005 - 11:22 AMIn Vedic Astrology a "Hamsa Yoga" is shown when Jupiter is exalted or in his own sign and in an angle.
The name of Jupiter in Sanskrit is "Guru". Guru means teacher
Our worldy thoughts and actions are inherently limited, it takes God's grace to perfect them. The great masters generally advise "do your best, then let God's grace take care of the rest." A Hamsa Yoga gives a person the innate understanding of God's grace flowing.
It is Jupiter that shows how much of God's grace will be operating in a person's life, based on their past karma. A Powerful Jupter is literally like a guardian angel helping through life's difficulties.
Think of Jupiter in the Solar System. He is by far the largest planet. He sits at the edge of the "outer" Solar System (after the asteroid belt) his enormous gravity protects the inner planets by eating comets and other satellites. As such he is the large expansive quality in our mind which protects us from the smaller objects of self and other selves, that would harm us.
The generosity, the hope, the optimism, the luck - All of these things teach us to trust the benevolence of the unfolding universe - this is a most important teaching, trust in God's grace. Thus Jupiter is Guru, the teacher, who teaches the very important lesson that there is an infinite and expansive nature to our being, not just a worldly one.
A powerful Jupiter like this will give a sense of gratitude and an understanding that we are being looked after by a wise living cosmos, not a cold unfeeling one.
God simply refers to that which is bigger than our ability to explain or understand - that which cannot be measured by our intellect or accomplished by our individual skills and efforts - However, whenever and wherever we find this, we have found God.
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Tue, December 27, 2005 - 1:04 AMI agree with you. I posted this because this exactly the attitude i found when i first started going to yoga. Many poeple, especially the weight-training guys, equated a room full of hot sweaty women stretching with their own sexual needs/expectation. Many of them looked at me with disdain for being seriously into the practice and not into the chicks.
This is a very interesting discussion!
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Fri, December 16, 2005 - 8:53 PM3000 miles is so far....
;-)
Just an aside, during my travels in India, I was surprised at the times when very reputable spiritual masters told me that they held Hatha Yoga in disrepute because they felt people (at least Westerners) did it for improving their sex life primarily.
Of course I claimed otherwise. If everybody out there is doing Yoga for sex, somebody please let me know!
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Fri, December 23, 2005 - 6:36 PMKarl,
Lots of spiritual masters hold everything but their own teaching in disrepute. My friends from India tell me this attitude is common in their country.
But seriously, one of the things I tell students is that if they *really* practice, there are times when yoga is even better than sex. This really gets them to practicing. The question is, am I telling them the truth. I've been researching this topic but I keep going back and forth on the conclusion ;-)
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Sat, December 24, 2005 - 9:25 AMInteresting perspective of what yoga is. There are a host of benefits to Hatha Yoga practices. Being in touch with the physical when you've not been in touch with yourself must come as quite a surprise. Some are dead from the neck down until they start doing asanas.
I can't wait for the stoners to realize that they can get higher with practicing yoga and eating right than using drugs!
Then there'll be the politicians that will bliss out when they discover that practicing yoga makes them more empathetic with others and thereby allowing them to serve their constituents better.
Seeing the beauty of others from yoga practice is one my favorite benefits. Kindness because we empathize from yoga practice is my most favorite benefit!
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Sat, December 24, 2005 - 4:40 PM!SA!, I am one of those in the first group that
you speak of, and you are right: I definitely
feel a wonderful high from my yoga practice.
I actually started with trying to teach myself
Kundalini, and immediately felt so good, I did
not want to be around smoke so much. I moved
to a smoke free place, and I am taking Kundalini
and Vinyasa classes regularly. I want to continue
to learn, and hope to one day be strong enough
to say no to the smoke. How do you feel about
people who practice, but still smoke a lot? Because
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Sat, December 24, 2005 - 6:57 PM"!SA!, I am one of those in the first group that
you speak of, and you are right: I definitely
feel a wonderful high from my yoga practice.
I actually started with trying to teach myself
Kundalini, and immediately felt so good, I did
not want to be around smoke so much. I moved
to a smoke free place, and I am taking Kundalini
and Vinyasa classes regularly. I want to continue
to learn, and hope to one day be strong enough
to say no to the smoke. How do you feel about
people who practice, but still smoke a lot? Because
I know a lot of people who do. Can some handle it
and others can't"
Does smoking get in the way of your practice?
:D
SA
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sat, December 24, 2005 - 9:21 PMMakes me lazy, complacent. At least with too much.
But I have spoken with others on this subject, and
quite honestly, I do agree with one friend that an
overabundance can smother one's 3rd eye. I use
to have premonitions when I was younger, and the
more I leave it alone, the sharper my instincts. I
also am able to remember my dreams more clearly.
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Sun, December 25, 2005 - 10:14 AMWaking up to what?
As the Dalai Lama says: "The essence of what I teach is kindness!"
Being kind to yourself is harder than being kind to others sometimes.
:D
SA
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Sun, December 25, 2005 - 10:23 AMYou are right. Maybe it is waking up
to kindness, and a whole host of other
things. I admit, I don't always accept
kindness from people, because I wonder
how can I possibly return the kindness?
Or if I deserve it at all. So it has been
easier to try not to feel anything, hence
the sedation. But that it what I want to change;
to let more in, and be able to give more.
I know that being kind to others makes
me feel better. Thank you, !SA!
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Not to mellow your buzz...
Sun, December 25, 2005 - 11:31 AMMANY years ago as America was starting to get interested in athletically healthy activities I was a college student. A friend of mine was an execise physiology major (we used to cycle and run together). Her only comment on the whole subject previously alluded to was that endurance activities tone ALL muscle groups, even those not actively engaged through the routine of exercise (whatever form it may take), whereas strength training not so much so...
with that in mind - ANY aerobic activity lasting an hour or longer (perhaps a typical yoga class) can prove to be enhancing for All of one's activities.
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Mon, December 26, 2005 - 10:48 AMYou must not take the subject of yoga
very seriously, otherwise you would
know that it is deeply linked to the
Hindu religions; in particular, that Yoga
in conjunction with Kama, Dharma, and
Artha are to be practiced for the attainment
of Moksha. It is not an hour of a round
of golf. For you to treat it so lightly, is
insulting to the people who practice it
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Heh! It worked...
Mon, December 26, 2005 - 11:46 AMThat was exactly the type of flippant attitude towards Yoga (of any form) I was trying to get across...
my favorite all time hatha yoga teacher is John Friend as he was perhaps the first to put the spiritual side back in - I had some classes with him about 7 years ago before he "went public" with it.
When hatha yoga arrived in America it was viewed as just another form of calisthenics...
Ayurveda was viewed as just another form of highly organized home remedies...
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Mon, December 26, 2005 - 12:17 PMSo, do you still practice Hatha? And if
you do, what do you get out of it?
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Tue, December 27, 2005 - 7:17 AMI live in New York and I don't see that yoga here is mostly about sex. If it helps people have better sex so what. Maybe I'm naive but I don'y see it in the classes i go to. I think this article is more about where the writer's head is at than where yoga is at in NYC.
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Thu, December 29, 2005 - 8:38 AMSadly, this is what you get when you live in a sexually convoluted country like the US. Movies can be horrifically violent, but the minute you see a man's genetalia, even if it's a simple shot of them coming out of the shower, the movie gets an NC-17 rating and all but art house movie theatres refuse to show it. The US has a very hypocritical attitude towards sex - teenagers are paid big money to flaunt their sexuality in commercials, but then people scream outrage when sexual education is taught in schools.
In a country where the human body is viewed as dirty and evil, with nudity is prohibited on almost all beaches, people are desparate for positive body affirmation. We are desparate to express themselves as sensual creatures, so we try to sneak our expression in wherever we can. Since yoga practice tunes us in to all the innerworkings of our body and our mind, it's no wonder this urge we suppress and have been brainwashed to think is evil and wrong, comes out in yoga.
I realizer some interpret brahmacharya as restraint from sexual urges, and I appreciate that through rigorous yoga practice one can detach themself from all urges, but most people are a long way off from then. We in the US still have a long way to go in terms of acceptance. Sex is neither bad nor good, it just is, it's the extremes and excesses on both sides that cause heartbreak. Until we can cultivate a more accepting and rational viewpoint on the human body, we will see this incredible need for acceptance and expression creeping in to every aspect of our life, even yoga.
That all being said, if naked yoga is the hook that gets people doing yoga, as opposed to doing heroin, or whatever else, and along the way a few people discover all the other wonderful benefits of yoga, even if they're considered side effects, then more power to them. -
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sat, December 31, 2005 - 7:56 AMgood stuff!
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Sat, December 31, 2005 - 2:49 PMThat is a fabulous quote!
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sat, January 7, 2006 - 6:49 PMi say we don't see enough male genetalia compared to female t&a. i mean, we're barraged with big, fake boobies all the time!!!! where's the beef?
but seriously, i think american culture is pretty silly and juvenile. i'm kind of ashamed about it but can say i'm not part of it. i'm not a gung-ho consumer. i don't buy into most of this crap.
more horrible stuff from american culture and on the same lines as the sex obsession: the youth obsession. it's a sickness. we are the ONLY culture who casts out our elders and chases this eternal youth to the point of becoming surgically enhanced robots. blech. i could go on and on about that one but i will spare y'all for the moment. :)
my cousin in germany said, "i can't wait to get grey hairs (she's the same age as me, 44). it shows wisdom." i told her, "sabine, if you lived in america and got your grey hairs you'd be running to walmart for hair coloring because they don't treat grey-haired women very kindly in america." isn't that just sad??? -
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sat, January 7, 2006 - 9:47 PMWell, the libido is up but I'm not doing anything about it. It's one thing to have the boost in energy and another to let it control you.
And to think, all these guys going out for viagra when they could just do some yoga and get even more results.
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sat, January 7, 2006 - 4:11 PMI've noticed lately that after doing Yoga that my libido has gone off the charts! I must be hitting a deeper level.
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sat, January 7, 2006 - 6:41 PMwe had one guy teacher here for a while here that i thought was kind of weird. he had an intense, creepy, almost desperate vibe to him. (poor guy wound up getting a divorce and quitting teaching yoga.) he was a nice guy. just something about him.
i always thought he got his cert for the wrong reasons -- to wear his bike shorts and surround himself with women in tights. he was/is a full-time defense engineer so it's not like he needed the income.
i never took his class. i thought, "my god, i wonder what he thinks as he cruises the room, adjusting women in adho mukha svanasana!?" or "i don't want to be caught in supta baddha konasana around that man!"
yeah, yoga does help your sex life. but if that's the sole reason someone is doing it then they're in it for the wrong reasons. maybe the right reasons will sneak up on them in the process? that's what we can hope for.
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Sat, January 7, 2006 - 11:12 PMObviously the writer was just trying to get readers. Her husband went to Jivamukti nad was staring at hotties. Not that there aren't cuties in all yoga branches but Jivamukti would be one of the last places I would expect people to be staring at others.
I close my eyes for over 50% of my practice except in Iyngar classes where it is discouraged.
San Francisco has co-ed naked yoga. I have never tried it nor would I ever. Certainly not my cup of tea but the place that hosts it seems reaaly cool and has some good instructors and a range of classes. It is One Tase - an urban retreat Center (onetastesf.com/yoga_dance.html) and the classes are really cheap (drop in 10 USD and 10 class card for 90 USD). -
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Sun, January 8, 2006 - 8:36 AMat burning man a couple of years ago they always had people doing yoga in the center camp rugged area. there were some pretty good yogis and yoginis out there doing impressive poses. we walked around to get to the other side and some girl with very short shorts was doing adho mukha svanasana with her butt facing all of the viewing public. looked more like a full moon pose to me. she looked ready for insertion, and i'm pretty sure that is what she was going for. i said to my husband, "that is SO NOT yoga." not sure he agreed with me. :P
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Just another Yoga Class
Sun, January 8, 2006 - 8:43 AMI've been a pagan so long that nudity doesn't bother me. Gatherings I go to, there are nude people everywhere. If someone is really in shape I admire the sculpting they did. However, classically cute/beautiful people I'm weary of because society makes them crazy with it's expectations of them.
Before I met my sweetie, I'd normally meet partners around a drum circle rather than a yoga class. Yoga class has always been a place where I'm trying to focus through the pain and obtain the bliss.
Being in a nude yoga class would just be any other class to me. If there's people ogling others in yoga classes. It means that they're not doing the postures right. Or that they need to go deeper in the posture because it's not intense enough for them.
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SA
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Sun, January 8, 2006 - 7:12 PMYou're cute, !SA! Where do you go, Starwood?
I want to go to BM, but in case of financial
difficulty, I'm picking Starwood, or perhaps Pennsic.
Sorry to get off subject. O.K., back to the
naked yoga!
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Re: Just another Yoga Class
Mon, January 9, 2006 - 6:59 AMi don't have a problem with nudity either but don't use yoga as a mating call. argh! -
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 7:24 AMIn case you meant me, that's not what I was doing.
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 12:15 PMI just tried this last weekend and it was a very sweet space. Mostly 40s/50s something people with very ordinary bodies (17 men, 4 women)
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 1:05 PMInteresting to note that the usual ratio in a yoga class is 1 man for 3 or 4 women.
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Re: One-taste naked yoga...
Mon, January 9, 2006 - 1:38 PMa couple of years ago i thought about trying Hot naked Yoga in NY and the guy who runs it sent me an email asking me for my picture before I could be invited. otherwise he would not disclose the location. i wrote him back and told him i wasn't going to send him a photo to go to a yoga class because i thought that whole premis e was antithetical to yoga and so he wrote me back begrudgingly telling me i would be allowed to come to one class at on a trial basis and at that time the Yoga master (him) would let me know if I would be invited back and where the next session was to be held. Whatever! I didn't bother to go because that made me lose interest.
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 1:05 PM<40s/50s something people with very ordinary bodies (17 men, 4 women)
Generally those ratios are oppposite..(17 women to 4 men) so what does that say??
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 1:19 PMI could understand naked bikram yoga...just too hot to have anything on...
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Mon, January 9, 2006 - 1:42 PMYes, I noticed the reversal of ratio myself. Very interesting... the only two theories that I could come up with are
1) More gay men attending hoping to meet other like-minded yogis (though my gay-dar didn't register a strong contingent)
2) Women fear predation in the environment and that doesn't jibe with their sense of what yoga is about.
Only theories here... mostly it was just like any other class... just a bit sweeter a space. One of the women was part of a couple, a man and a woman in their 70’s/80’s who were regulars… very sweet people and very beautiful. -
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Re: One-taste naked yoga...
Mon, January 9, 2006 - 2:47 PMi think #2 is more on the mark.
my husband and i went to a nude yoga class at a nudist resort. turns out most of us kept our sarongs on or nearby ... perhaps cleanliness issues? the "overtly sexual connotation" of doing some of those poses naked? not sure. we all saw each other naked throughout the weekend. just didn't seem appropriate during yoga class.
i feel like i might perv out a little and stare a lot during a naked yoga class with experienced yogis/yoginis. i prefer to keep my clothes on for yoga, boring person that i am. -
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Tue, January 17, 2006 - 7:41 AMWell now we know how to get more guys into yoga...;o)
Yes men are more visual I suppose...
I would never send someone a picture of myself to get into a class...
Jeesh! How LA!!!
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Re: sex=yoga (in NY apparently)
Tue, January 17, 2006 - 4:54 PMany topic w/ 'sex' in it pulls in the posts, eh?
wow!
but we're dancing around the topic here.
as per usual in the U S of A, land of the sexually suppressed.
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Sun, December 24, 2006 - 2:43 PMpromoting muscle flexibility, strength, improved breathing, stress reduction, balance... hell yeah yoga and sex are pretty much the same :) -
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Mon, December 25, 2006 - 9:07 AMThis is a passage from the 16th chapter of Yogananda's "Autobiography of a YOGI" on the meaning of the Adam and Eve story. The dialogue is between Yogananda and his guru Sri Yukteswar.
The Adam and Eve story is incomprehensible to me!" I observed with considerable heat one day in my early struggles with the allegory. "Why did God punish not only the guilty pair, but also the innocent unborn generations?"
Master was more amused by my vehemence than my ignorance. "Genesis is deeply symbolic, and cannot be grasped by a literal interpretation," he explained. "Its 'tree of life' is the human body. The spinal cord is like an upturned tree, with man's hair as its roots, and afferent and efferent nerves as branches. The tree of the nervous system bears many enjoyable fruits, or sensations of sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch. In these, man may rightfully indulge; but he was forbidden the experience of sex, the 'apple' at the center of the bodily garden.
"The 'serpent' represents the coiled-up spinal energy which stimulates the sex nerves. 'Adam' is reason, and 'Eve' is feeling. When the emotion or Eve-consciousness in any human being is overpowered by the sex impulse, his reason or Adam also succumbs.
"God created the human species by materializing the bodies of man and woman through the force of His will; He endowed the new species with the power to create children in a similar 'immaculate' or divine manner. Because His manifestation in the individualized soul had hitherto been limited to animals, instinct-bound and lacking the potentialities of full reason, God made the first human bodies, symbolically called Adam and Eve. To these, for advantageous upward evolution, He transferred the souls or divine essence of two animals. In Adam or man, reason predominated; in Eve or woman, feeling was ascendant. Thus was expressed the duality or polarity which underlies the phenomenal worlds. Reason and feeling remain in a heaven of cooperative joy so long as the human mind is not tricked by the serpentine energy of animal propensities.
"The human body was therefore not solely a result of evolution from beasts, but was produced by an act of special creation by God. The animal forms were too crude to express full divinity; the human being was uniquely given a tremendous mental capacity-the 'thousand-petaled lotus' of the brain-as well as acutely awakened occult centers in the spine.
"God, or the Divine Consciousness present within the first created pair, counseled them to enjoy all human sensibilities, but not to put their concentration on touch sensations. These were banned in order to avoid the development of the sex organs, which would enmesh humanity in the inferior animal method of propagation. The warning not to revive subconsciously-present bestial memories was not heeded. Resuming the way of brute procreation, Adam and Eve fell from the state of heavenly joy natural to the original perfect man.
"Knowledge of 'good and evil' refers to the cosmic dualistic compulsion. Falling under the sway of maya through misuse of his feeling and reason, or Eve-and Adam-consciousness, man relinquishes his right to enter the heavenly garden of divine self- sufficiency. The personal responsibility of every human being is to restore his 'parents' or dual nature to a unified harmony or Eden."
As Sri Yukteswar ended his discourse, I glanced with new respect at the pages of Genesis .
"Dear Master," I said, "for the first time I feel a proper filial obligation toward Adam and Eve!"
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Sat, December 30, 2006 - 12:52 PMWow, Arjuna, thank you for that!
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Mon, January 29, 2007 - 8:52 AMI absolutly love this post. Yoga for me is all of those things. Sweat, heavy breathing, release, moving muscles and toning. It's a lot of other things too, inside which makes my experience on my mat most enjoyable. In class, I share my space with others, warriors. It's spirit that moves us to explore boundries, limitations and imagination. Horay for human-ness! When I experience being with others sweating, moving, growing and imagining, it's a total turn on. I like to listen to myself breathe. I like to feel beautiful. Oh yeah, P.S....The sex is much better too.