http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#4894c48d-0653-4db7-ba42-4125a48fae38 did my comment get deleted? I am pretty sure I pressed submit, weird. I will try again later Wed, 13 May 2009 18:40:04 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#4894c48d-0653-4db7-ba42-4125a48fae38 Nityananda 2009-05-13T18:40:04Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#ea66f192-e792-4831-aa2f-49acbdef5354 The use of mantra stems from the belief that certain sounds used in the Sanskrit language have some spiritual significance or power. I've found one or two that seem to be effective, but I'm not sure that the power is inherent in the sound itself. Patanjali's Yoga Sutras give only one mantra, which is OM, the symbol of Isvara (the Lord). His instructions include recitation and contemplation of its meaning. The previous quote mentions certain intonations that were used, which I know nothing about. NOTICE TO ANNOYING HARE KRISNA STALKERS: Trespassing in this thread will not be tolerated. If you want to preach about Krisna, please START YOUR OWN THREAD. Wed, 13 May 2009 21:50:53 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#ea66f192-e792-4831-aa2f-49acbdef5354 Sam 2009-05-13T21:50:53Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#7d382413-0e56-47fd-9102-9c134d32d023 Margot, My message was directed to a particular individual who appears to have targeted me. He often posts long-winded responses in my threads which I find annoying, distracting, and self-serving. It's unfortunate that I had to act to in order to keep the thread on topic, and I will do so again if necessary. Sun, 24 May 2009 14:24:06 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#7d382413-0e56-47fd-9102-9c134d32d023 Sam 2009-05-24T14:24:06Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#fdfaf9f0-da14-4e99-a398-e29ffd1f978b Why don't you want Hare Krishna's responding? What about Muslims? Catholics? Jews? Blacks? Women? Are we allowed a voice too? Or would that be considered trespassing? You sound like a bigot... maybe a little less time showing off how spiritual you are and a little more time inwards would help? Thu, 21 May 2009 06:10:13 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#fdfaf9f0-da14-4e99-a398-e29ffd1f978b Margot 2009-05-21T06:10:13Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#a4268cc8-42cc-42a4-bf5b-557c1c4bd869 If the Mantra is chanted with intense and complete devotion and emersion with the divine, even one can be enough. Tue, 19 May 2009 04:27:16 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#a4268cc8-42cc-42a4-bf5b-557c1c4bd869 $item.owner.firstName 2009-05-19T04:27:16Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#9a46eda8-d156-48ad-bb2d-e4755b86985c "Whoever strives for esoteric development must above all be clear that certain extremely simple formulae conceal a force which takes effect if these formulae or sentences are made alive in the soul. He does not rightly grasp what this implies if he tries to understand such sentences merely with the intellect. That way they say very little to him, to begin with. He must for a certain time fill his whole inner being with such a sentence, pouring himself into it with all the powers of his soul. Such a sentence is: `I am'. The whole secret of present-day human existence really lies in this sentence." From http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GuidEsot.index.html by Rudolf Steiner I found this on another forum. I'm not familiar with Rudolf Steiner or his philosophy, but the quote seems relevant. Sun, 17 May 2009 13:33:51 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#9a46eda8-d156-48ad-bb2d-e4755b86985c Sam 2009-05-17T13:33:51Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#a01ea0e1-b61f-409a-beb8-cfc097d977f8 Now we're getting somewhere. Fri, 15 May 2009 20:57:36 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#a01ea0e1-b61f-409a-beb8-cfc097d977f8 Sam 2009-05-15T20:57:36Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#d153928e-5dae-436f-a1f9-34dd8954c408 There are other mantras in which each syllable "symbolizes" something. >> This one of key differences of western philosophy and Vedic philosophy is that the Vedic culture words do not symbolize something rather they are in fact that thing in its seed form, bij. Fri, 15 May 2009 14:15:55 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#d153928e-5dae-436f-a1f9-34dd8954c408 Nityananda 2009-05-15T14:15:55Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#e4ba2052-4896-4ba7-b8ce-9ca51808273f I'm not speaking with any authority, just from my own observations. The ancient Aryans of India apparently adopted the use of mantra wholeheartedly, but mostly in the form of prayers to various gods. There are other mantras in which each syllable symbolizes something. Some consist of only one or two syllables. Others have many syllables that may be combined in different ways and with different intonations. Fri, 15 May 2009 00:52:11 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#e4ba2052-4896-4ba7-b8ce-9ca51808273f Sam 2009-05-15T00:52:11Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#55f615b0-250b-44c3-a8ed-51c33e590a02 It did not know all yoga supported fascism? I do have some qualifications to speak about mantra being that over the past 13 years I have doing mantra mediation for over 2 hours daily. Thu, 14 May 2009 01:34:38 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#55f615b0-250b-44c3-a8ed-51c33e590a02 Nityananda 2009-05-14T01:34:38Z http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#14edd3c1-2e59-4272-9d43-613506003521 Lynn, At your request, here's what I know about mantra, although I'm no expert. " One should practise the Mantra along with its Matrikas (proper intonations of the sounds) and others for a period of twelve years; 22. Then he gradually obtains wisdom along with the Siddhis, (such as) Anima, etc. Persons of weak intellect who are the least qualified for Yoga practise this." Yoga Tattva Upanishad, 1.21 Let's see if that's enough to get the discussion rolling. Wed, 13 May 2009 00:54:17 GMT http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#14edd3c1-2e59-4272-9d43-613506003521 Sam 2009-05-13T00:54:17Z