Tribe.net. Local Connections Nityananda http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#4894c48d-0653-4db7-ba42-4125a48fae38 2009-05-25T02:17:27Z 2009-05-13T18:40:04Z

did my comment get deleted? I am pretty sure I pressed submit, weird. I will try again later

Nityananda 2009-05-13T18:40:04Z Sam http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#ea66f192-e792-4831-aa2f-49acbdef5354 2009-05-25T02:17:07Z 2009-05-13T21:50:53Z

The use of mantra stems from the belief that certain sounds used in the Sanskrit language have some spiritual significance or power. I've found one or two that seem to be effective, but I'm not sure that the power is inherent in the sound itself. Patanjali's Yoga Sutras give only one mantra, which is OM, the symbol of Isvara (the Lord). His instructions include recitation and contemplation of its meaning. The previous quote mentions certain intonations that were used, which I know nothing about. NOTICE TO ANNOYING HARE KRISNA STALKERS: Trespassing in this thread will not be tolerated. If you want to preach about Krisna, please START YOUR OWN THREAD.

Sam 2009-05-13T21:50:53Z Sam http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#7d382413-0e56-47fd-9102-9c134d32d023 2009-05-25T02:14:56Z 2009-05-24T14:24:06Z

Margot, My message was directed to a particular individual who appears to have targeted me. He often posts long-winded responses in my threads which I find annoying, distracting, and self-serving. It's unfortunate that I had to act to in order to keep the thread on topic, and I will do so again if necessary.

Sam 2009-05-24T14:24:06Z Margot http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#fdfaf9f0-da14-4e99-a398-e29ffd1f978b 2009-05-25T02:14:37Z 2009-05-21T06:10:13Z

Why don't you want Hare Krishna's responding? What about Muslims? Catholics? Jews? Blacks? Women? Are we allowed a voice too? Or would that be considered trespassing? You sound like a bigot... maybe a little less time showing off how spiritual you are and a little more time inwards would help?

Margot 2009-05-21T06:10:13Z $item.owner.firstName http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#a4268cc8-42cc-42a4-bf5b-557c1c4bd869 2009-05-19T04:27:16Z 2009-05-19T04:27:16Z

If the Mantra is chanted with intense and complete devotion and emersion with the divine, even one can be enough.

$item.owner.firstName 2009-05-19T04:27:16Z Sam http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#9a46eda8-d156-48ad-bb2d-e4755b86985c 2009-05-17T13:33:51Z 2009-05-17T13:33:51Z

"Whoever strives for esoteric development must above all be clear that certain extremely simple formulae conceal a force which takes effect if these formulae or sentences are made alive in the soul. He does not rightly grasp what this implies if he tries to understand such sentences merely with the intellect. That way they say very little to him, to begin with. He must for a certain time fill his whole inner being with such a sentence, pouring himself into it with all the powers of his soul. Such a sentence is: `I am'. The whole secret of present-day human existence really lies in this sentence." From http://wn.rsarchive.org/Books/GuidEsot.index.html by Rudolf Steiner I found this on another forum. I'm not familiar with Rudolf Steiner or his philosophy, but the quote seems relevant.

Sam 2009-05-17T13:33:51Z Sam http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#a01ea0e1-b61f-409a-beb8-cfc097d977f8 2009-05-15T20:57:36Z 2009-05-15T20:57:36Z

Now we're getting somewhere.

Sam 2009-05-15T20:57:36Z Nityananda http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#d153928e-5dae-436f-a1f9-34dd8954c408 2009-05-15T14:15:55Z 2009-05-15T14:15:55Z

There are other mantras in which each syllable "symbolizes" something. >> This one of key differences of western philosophy and Vedic philosophy is that the Vedic culture words do not symbolize something rather they are in fact that thing in its seed form, bij.

Nityananda 2009-05-15T14:15:55Z Sam http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#e4ba2052-4896-4ba7-b8ce-9ca51808273f 2009-05-15T00:52:11Z 2009-05-15T00:52:11Z

I'm not speaking with any authority, just from my own observations. The ancient Aryans of India apparently adopted the use of mantra wholeheartedly, but mostly in the form of prayers to various gods. There are other mantras in which each syllable symbolizes something. Some consist of only one or two syllables. Others have many syllables that may be combined in different ways and with different intonations.

Sam 2009-05-15T00:52:11Z Nityananda http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#55f615b0-250b-44c3-a8ed-51c33e590a02 2009-05-14T01:34:38Z 2009-05-14T01:34:38Z

It did not know all yoga supported fascism? I do have some qualifications to speak about mantra being that over the past 13 years I have doing mantra mediation for over 2 hours daily.

Nityananda 2009-05-14T01:34:38Z Sam http://allyoga.tribe.net/thread/29229545-36c6-477e-8999-c291c146ae28#14edd3c1-2e59-4272-9d43-613506003521 2009-05-13T00:54:17Z 2009-05-13T00:54:17Z

Lynn, At your request, here's what I know about mantra, although I'm no expert. " One should practise the Mantra along with its Matrikas (proper intonations of the sounds) and others for a period of twelve years; 22. Then he gradually obtains wisdom along with the Siddhis, (such as) Anima, etc. Persons of weak intellect who are the least qualified for Yoga practise this." Yoga Tattva Upanishad, 1.21 Let's see if that's enough to get the discussion rolling.

Sam 2009-05-13T00:54:17Z